I wrote down a few notes here.
I heard a while ago about this question about when things evolve and change and so on towards adjusting and concentrating on more value-added and local and so on. Well, the industry is evolving and is growing. So yes, towards value-added and towards local is great, but in order to respond and in order to grow and in order to be profitable, the industry needs tools to grow with the rest of the world. It is a competing industry, and these tools are needed. And we can't lose sight of that.