Briefly, there's no difference between us and other landscape nurseries. We produce in exactly the same way. In fact, as Luc has mentioned, we sell trees out of the same greenhouse, off the same benches. For ornamentals, we're producing conifers. They are Christmas trees.
The impact? I have a nursery in British Columbia whose deadline is tomorrow, and they can't repay those funds, so the impacts for them are rather immediate. This excludes us from all kinds of other.... We're required under law in British Columbia, in order to move our trees and sell them to the United States, to be Phytopthora ramorum certified. That's a disease that is rampant in the United States. If we wish to sell to that market, we need that certification. But under this program, because we're not eligible for farm income stabilization, we're one of the only nurseries who wouldn't be eligible for funding should we lose product as beef farmers do to BSE.
We have the same rules: if we have P. ramorum in our greenhouse, it's isolated and the crop is destroyed. Other landscape nurseries get compensation for that. We don't, because they're destined for a different market.
The other thing I have to say, having had the bankers here, is that I actually had a case representative say I should consider myself lucky, should consider this payment as an interest-free loan, and should consider myself lucky to have had interest-free access to those funds. Unfortunately, when I add that debt to my debt load at the bank, the bank doesn't quite see it that way, and I suddenly come out of covenants. It doesn't matter how benign the terms of repayment are: I'm not meeting my bank covenants. There are many nurseries in the same situation. We'll be gone.