Thank you, Chair.
I thank the witnesses for being here with us.
Mr. Livingston, you explained to Mrs. Taylor Roy that the problems related to the regulations have always existed, but that the electronic logging system has removed the flexibility that came with logging driving hours on paper. You say, for example, that the current demand is to allow for that flexibility again. That seems reasonable to me. I think that the people in the transportation industry were trying to comply with the regulations, even though this was being done on paper and they could, as you said, stop doing that.
Over the course of your career, when driving hours were logged on paper, did you see people try to exceed the maximum allowed for transport by very much?