Mr. Chair, I would say that yes, the member has me well pegged.
I have a cautious approach to business in China. It comes from five years of research that I did on Canadian technology company joint ventures in China. I found that instead of sharing the joint venture 50%-50% or 51%-49%, it was 90%-10% or 80%-20% in favour of the Chinese majority joint venture holder, when it was 100% Canadian technology that was being made. Then over time, the Chinese partner eased the Canadian partner out of their own joint venture.
I've seen a lot of this. I've seen more than three dozen cases like this, which were documented in a document at the China Institute, which published it.
I'm cautious on business issues. I don't take at face value what a supplier to a supplier to a supplier would say about whether there's forced labour in their factory. I'm skeptical.
I believe there's a government role on important things like human rights and being aligned with our partners as well.