Those at issue were companies like Zara, UNIQLO and H&M.
But on a positive note, we now pay more attention to the consequences of what we do, not only within the company, but throughout the global value chain. The use of forced labour is not a problem that companies can solve quickly. Many companies don't even know what's happening farther down the global value chain, but that's not the case for all companies.
For pension funds, it means that there is now a much higher risk level when situations like that occur. These risks are issues for which they can be held accountable, and reducing these risks is not easy.
At a previous meeting, witnesses spoke about the due diligence required of the firms in which they invest. Often, it's not these firms that use forced labour, but rather their suppliers and subcontractors. This is done by them clandestinely, of course. To solve the problem, our firms need a better understanding of what's going on. It's not easy to do, however.