AUKUS is evolving, so the original conception of AUKUS as focused largely on nuclear submarine technology is changing as we speak. There's now general talk about, perhaps, an associate membership in AUKUS—Japan has been mooted as a member; Canada is a possible member—and looking at other areas of sharing of technology.
I think Canada needs to keep an open mind and find where it could find a role. The role it would play, I think, would be a very different role from those of Australia and the United States. I think there's a potential for us to be associated with AUKUS and to derive some benefits from it and not have it threaten or undermine our relationships in the region.