I think the question is about how we approach this. I think there are symbolic acts that often end up simply provoking China, but then there are things that could be done with great substance at the lower level. I can think about economic ties. Definitely that's one possibility, but I think there's also collaboration on the issue of public health, issues about indigenous people and civil society in general.
I think it is important that whatever policy Canada, as a democracy, ends up pursuing in support of Taiwan has to have received broad public support. I think it's extremely important for democracy to make citizens understand that we're talking about a place with real people.
I know there's a lot of talk about Indo-Pacific strategies and semiconductor industries, and all these are important, but at the same time we shouldn't talk about Taiwan as if the place were an abstract. This is a real place with real people with social texture, a very vibrant film industry, popular culture. We think about the Korean K-wave; one could argue that there is a T-wave.
I think those things need to be elevated, and I don't think they will be provoking China at all by these low-level civil society ties.