I think this is where a blacklist would come into play, as some of the earlier witnesses mentioned. I think, to be honest, it's not a negative concept. Some of the investors we speak to think a blacklist would be very helpful for them. It would be a road map of the companies to avoid. I think there's a general, larger problem when it comes to ESG in China that, in all conscience, you probably can't invest in most Chinese stocks without there being some level of risk.
Of course, there are going to be private investors who are happy to wear that risk and go in with their eyes open, which is fine, but I think the issue we're talking about today is gambling with other people's money, gambling with Canadian pensioners' money. At that point, the aversion to risk should be quite high.