I would say there are inherent trade-offs to everything we're talking about. I think the other witnesses raised serious challenges that policy-makers in Canada and elsewhere ought to focus on. There are trade-offs in all the choices before us.
One upside that I wouldn't want to go underexplored or underconsidered is the democratization of news that has occurred over the past 20 years. The barrier to entry for podcasts is essentially your iPhone. Everyone can be a podcaster. Then, of course, it's up to consumers to make judgments about what is reliable, what can be trusted and so on. That has given voice to so many people who, in the traditional era of a concentrated news media, were closed out of the public conversation, both in terms of—