Evidence of meeting #123 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was randy.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Nancy Vohl

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

I call the meeting to order. Welcome to meeting number 123 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics.

Before we begin, I want to remind everyone to keep your earpieces away from the microphones so that no one, including our interpreters, will experience any feedback.

We are under committee business. I saw hands go up.

First, we have Mr. Barrett, Ms. Khalid and then Mr. Fisher.

Go ahead, Mr. Barrett.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Go ahead on your point of order, Mr. Housefather.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

My point of order is that my understanding of the rules, Mr. Chair, is that the motion by Mr. Bains, being a privilege motion, supersedes any other motion before the committee and that we should be returning now to Mr. Bains' privilege motion. He agreed to allow a meeting to happen, when I don't think he had to on Tuesday, without going through his privilege motion.

Mr. Chair, my belief is that you should come to Mr. Bains.

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

As I explained in the last meeting, Mr. Housefather, when we left the meeting, the meeting was adjourned; therefore, debate was adjourned.

When a member has the floor, they can move the appropriate motion if they want to resume debate. I mentioned that in the last meeting, and that's where we're going to start off today.

I've acknowledged that Mr. Barrett has the floor. When a member, perhaps Mr. Bains, has the floor and wants to move a motion to resume debate, he can certainly do that at that time, Mr. Housefather.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

Mr. Chair, I also have a point of order.

I had let you know before the committee started that I would like to be first on the list, and I'm not sure why you didn't recognize me first. I would appreciate it if you would recognize me first.

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Yes, we've been through this before when hands have gone up before the meeting. As soon as the gavel dropped, I saw Mr. Barrett's hand go up first, then I saw you and I saw Mr. Fisher, so—

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

You knew that I had—

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

The meeting hadn't started at that point, Ms. Khalid.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

But you knew, Chair.

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

You could contact me at eight o'clock in the morning to tell me that you want the floor, but until that gavel drops and I acknowledge who has the floor, it doesn't work that way. Mr. Barrett has the floor—

11:05 a.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Mr. Chair...?

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Mr. Green, I'm still on Ms. Khalid's point of order.

Mr. Barrett had the floor, as determined by me, when the meeting started and the gavel dropped, so I'm going to continue with that.

Go ahead, Mr. Green.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

I'd like to challenge your ruling on that, Chair.

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

We have a challenge of the ruling on the list of the speakers. It's a dilatory motion.

Do we have consensus to challenge what the speaking list will be? We don't.

Just to be clear, the challenge is who has the floor and, Ms. Khalid, I'm assuming that you're challenging that you had the floor before Mr. Barrett. Is that correct? Okay. That's certainly not the way that I saw it, but we will go to the vote.

Go ahead, Madam Clerk.

11:05 a.m.

The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Nancy Vohl

The motion is that Ms. Khalid has the floor.

Mr. Bains.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Parm Bains Liberal Steveston—Richmond East, BC

I vote yes.

11:05 a.m.

An hon. member

No.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Parm Bains Liberal Steveston—Richmond East, BC

You said the motion is that she has the floor.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

What is the motion?

11:05 a.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Hang on. The motion is that I acknowledged Mr. Barrett at the beginning and Ms. Khalid has challenged that, so—

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON

Why are you arguing if you agree? That's how he voted.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Hang on a second, Mr. Barrett.

11:10 a.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!