Evidence of meeting #123 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was randy.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Nancy Vohl

1:45 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

I'll go on the record and state that.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

That's for at least one hour.

I think I see where the confusion lies here, and I hear what you're saying. It's “to appear before the committee and testify for at least one hour”.

1:45 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

That's fair enough. Thank you for that. I'm in full support of the amendment.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Let me clarify this.

1:45 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

I would like to hear from the Ghaoui's, but maybe we'll save that for another day.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Mr. Desilets, I would like to clarify something.

The amendment that we received asks that the motion be changed by deleting the word “each” and by deleting points (c) and (d). However, you said that you wanted each witness to speak for one hour.

1:45 p.m.

Bloc

Luc Desilets Bloc Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

To make things simpler, we could delete the word “individually” from the wording “before the committee individually and testify for no less than one hour each”.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Okay.

1:45 p.m.

Bloc

Luc Desilets Bloc Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

If the committee wants to make it even more specific, it could be written as follows: “one hour for both witnesses”.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

I want to make sure that things are clear.

It would be “to appear before the committee and testify for no less than one hour”.

Do you agree?

1:45 p.m.

Bloc

Luc Desilets Bloc Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

Yes, I agree.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Okay.

Are we clear on that? I think that clears it up.

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

Can I see it in writing?

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

I'll get the clerk to send it out, but it's a fairly minor change to the amendment.

Matt, I also want to address the other point you brought up about the amendment you proposed. If you recall, the motion was put forward by Mr. Barrett. For the amendment you spoke about, we adjourned debate and when we continued again, Mr. Barrett proposed a different motion than the one that was proposed.

The debate adjourned on Mr. Barrett's motion and your amendment on it as well. It was picked up again when Mr. Barrett proposed a new motion, so that's how we ended up in this place.

1:45 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

It feels like Groundhog Day, but that's fair enough. Thank you.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

You should walk in my shoes, Mr. Green.

The clerk will send the committee members the change to the amendment moved by Mr. Desilets.

We'll keep discussing the amendment.

I'm going to read it into the record: “the committee call on the following witnesses to appear before the committee and testify for no less than one hour”. That's really the—

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

I don't think that's what we discussed, Chair.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Was it for at least one hour?

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

No, I think it was for just one hour.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

All right. It's “for one hour”.

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

It's not “individually”. I think “individually” was removed.

That's why I'd like to see it in writing, so that none of us have any confusion about it.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Okay.

I'll read out that part again: “witnesses to appear before the committee and testify for no less than one hour”—

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

No, Chair. It's “for one hour”.

1:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Okay.

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

It's also deleting “individually”, I believe.

Is that correct?