On that particular point, Mr. Chair, I disagree. If this bill is really designed to get the folks who can afford to pay this—and let's say lower- to middle-income Canadians—pre-tax or post-tax isn't going to make that much of a difference. I think it's those who have the cash to make the limits who are going to be taking advantage of it. Let's be frank about that.
I am certainly still in favour of the grant portion that's here. I'm very concerned that even the mover of the motion is suggesting that, well, if it affects the treasury, maybe we'll get rid of the grant piece because of the take-up side. I think that is the wrong approach for us to be taking. I am not going to my public to say I am supporting a position that because of the take-up we are going to get rid of the grant part, that all Canadians are contributing to the advantage of having students in post-secondary education and bettering our economy. I think you cannot do it; you can't pass this bill without consideration of that as a serious option that gets removed as.... I think it's disingenuous not to make sure it's in the record and on the record that we want to do this.
I have as much time as I want, I think, Mr. Pacetti.