We're spending almost as much on debt servicing costs as we are on transfers for health care. It seems to me that the priority of the government should be to service the debt because it's grown so much. Part of the reason is interest rates, which have been driven up by a number of factors. We can get into some of them now, but we don't have time.
The Governor of the Bank of Canada just last week said that deficit spending made interest rates go higher this year. That is one of the things we're looking at. Would you agree with the previous Governor of the Bank of Canada?