Well, again, compensation is more than a salary. When we say “we should not lead, but be comparable to”, we look at all aspects of compensation. That is wages and salary, that's pension benefits, health benefits. That's how we compare.
So in some cases we may come out a little bit behind the private sector when it comes to the wages and salaries, but we can rank somewhat better to a lot better in the area of pension. That's how we look at it when we say we want to be comparable. In principle, that's the case.
In the case of trying to engage specialized IT people, we have to look at the market overall in order to be competitive, but we will do it on a total compensation basis.