I think that's a very critical question. There's a lot of sycophantic behaviour in government, as there is in institutions in general. I believe that all people should be treated equally, recognizing of course that there has to be deference and respect to your bosses.
The question you ask is a far larger question than we can address today, and it goes to the whole issue of ministerial accountability, which has been eroded now for decades in Canada. There's a lot written about this, and I encourage you to talk about it when you're looking at the whistle-blowing legislation.
With Axworthy, it was galling. He was going around the world as a champion of human and individual rights, and when I reached out to him, I felt quite confident that he would listen to the issue. Instead, as I said, a letter came back very quickly threatening libel, so I sued him. He became part of the process. That was 25 years ago. I would hope that today a minister would not so brazenly dismiss an employee who came forward with so much evidence.