I mentioned that Eabametoong has a program that has evolved over the years. We started in 2010 in response to the state of emergency, and it has evolved. Whenever there is funding, people are taken out, with elders involved. They go out by canoe or by motorboat, and they get back in touch with their culture.
One of the first minor successes we had in the program was I had someone say to me, “For the first time in three years, my wife and I went out and got wood.” That may sound simple to you, but it wasn't just a trip to get fuel. It was a day out on the land. They laughed together and they worked together. They came back feeling really proud that they had gotten it. It was a spiritual connection that I don't fully understand—I am not Anishinabe—but I could witness it. That's where the successes come.
Sandy Lake also had a program. They took people out for two weeks. They were abstinent for two weeks, and they felt great at the end of the two weeks. When they went back to their community, where there was so much around and no real ongoing support, they all relapsed. It was a 100% relapse.