Who are you accusing of treason, sir?
Evidence of meeting #107 for Health in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was you're.
A video is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #107 for Health in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was you're.
A video is available from Parliament.
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Conservative
Stephen Ellis Conservative Cumberland—Colchester, NS
Your crazy bombast and your foolish, petulant behaviour—
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Conservative
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Liberal
Mark Holland Liberal Ajax, ON
You can't accuse somebody of treason and not name them. I think that's totally irresponsible.
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Conservative
Stephen Ellis Conservative Cumberland—Colchester, NS
I'm here to ask the questions and you're here to answer them, which you continue to refuse to do.
This is actually a point of privilege, if you don't want to answer the questions. Is that how you want to do this?
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Liberal
Mark Holland Liberal Ajax, ON
What I want to be able to do is understand who you just accused of treason, sir. That's an incredibly awful accusation.
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Conservative
Stephen Ellis Conservative Cumberland—Colchester, NS
It is. Do you know what the definition of treason is?
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Conservative
Stephen Ellis Conservative Cumberland—Colchester, NS
No, I'm asking the questions. Do you know what the definition of treason is?
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Liberal
Mark Holland Liberal Ajax, ON
I get to ask questions. You don't get to dictate that.
Who are you accusing of treason, sir?
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Conservative
Stephen Ellis Conservative Cumberland—Colchester, NS
Do you know what the definition of treason is—yes or no?
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Conservative
Stephen Ellis Conservative Cumberland—Colchester, NS
You really have no idea. That's exactly what Canadians want to hear.
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Conservative
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Liberal
Mark Holland Liberal Ajax, ON
If you are going to accuse somebody of treason in this country, that is a reprehensible thing to do. I would ask that you name who you are accusing of treason.
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Conservative
Stephen Ellis Conservative Cumberland—Colchester, NS
Do you know what? I do not need to answer your questions, but you need to answer mine.
What is the definition of treason? Do you have any idea?
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Liberal
Mark Holland Liberal Ajax, ON
I'd be curious. You named somebody as being treasonous, so who are they and what's your definition?
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Conservative
Stephen Ellis Conservative Cumberland—Colchester, NS
I asked you what the definition of treason is. Do you know what it is?
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Conservative
Stephen Ellis Conservative Cumberland—Colchester, NS
No. That's not it. It is actually, very simply, knowingly communicating “military or scientific information” or documents “to an agent of a state other than Canada” with the intention of jeopardizing the safety or defence of Canada.
Did that happen at this lab?
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Liberal
Mark Holland Liberal Ajax, ON
Neither of us is a lawyer, but you and I would both know that calling somebody something like a—
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Conservative
Stephen Ellis Conservative Cumberland—Colchester, NS
Do you know what, Minister? You're not a doctor, but you made a whole bunch of claims today that are non-scientific as well.