Right. We heard from Jody Thomas as well that there needs to be a focus on what advice is given and recommendations are made as to what should be done about the intelligence, even when it does flow correctly, at the right pace, to the right people, at the right time, which is a bit of an orchestration. It's complex. I'm just acknowledging that it's complex and it's changing, and therefore there will be challenges.
In terms of the general sentiments here, there are some shortcomings in terms of structural challenges and communication flow. There's also a significant cultural change within the intelligence agencies and the intelligence community in general. Can you speak to maybe the cultural shift and describe that a little bit further for us?