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Evidence of meeting #46 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was rad.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #46 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was rad.
A recording is available from Parliament.
11:55 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
Since I'm not a parliamentary expert, I again turn to my clerks for advice.
You're challenging the ruling of the chair that the member has unlimited time to present his motion.
Noon
The Clerk of the Committee
You put the question, shall the ruling of the chair be sustained?
Noon
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
Shall the ruling of the chair be sustained?
(Ruling of the chair overturned)
Noon
Liberal
Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I move that we go on to the next witnesses.
Noon
Conservative
Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK
There's a motion on the floor, and there's a point of order.
Noon
Conservative
Rahim Jaffer Conservative Edmonton Strathcona, AB
There are consequences to your challenge of the chair. We now have to hear what the consequences are of your challenging the chair.
Noon
Liberal
Noon
Conservative
Rahim Jaffer Conservative Edmonton Strathcona, AB
Let's find out what the rules are. What are the consequences now that he's challenged the chair?
Noon
An hon. member
There's no debate.
Noon
Liberal
Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Scarborough East, ON
On a point of order, Chair, there's no debate on a substantive motion before the committee. The chair has been challenged. The chair has been overruled. You now proceed to the next order, which is the motion itself, of course.
Thank you, Chair.
Noon
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
My experts here at the table tell me that's correct. We have to move on to the next order of business.
Noon
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
I'm told I have to put the question on your motion.
All in favour of the motion--
Noon
Conservative
Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK
Before the question is put, I would like to speak to the motion.
Noon
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
You can't speak to the motion. The motion is finished. I have to call for the vote on the motion.
(Motion negatived)
Noon
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
Thank you for your presence here today, and my apologies for the delay.
I'm going to suspend for a minute to allow other people to come to the table.
12:10 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
I'm sorry we were delayed a bit, but we seem to be having some procedural differences at the table.
Just to clarify to Mr. Telegdi, now I'm told by the clerk that I could have recognized the point of order while Mr. Komarnicki was speaking. I'm not going back to any of this, mind you, but to clarify what has happened, I could have recognized the point of order while he was speaking. But you cannot move a motion to challenge the chair on the point that I was supposed to go back to Mr. Komarnicki.
So for future reference, that's the procedure, according to the rules I'm told about by the clerk. However, what's done is done.
12:10 p.m.
Liberal
Andrew Telegdi Liberal Kitchener—Waterloo, ON
Mr. Chair, I suggest we check on that with the clerk upstairs.
12:10 p.m.
Conservative
12:10 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Norman Doyle
So I will now go to the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada. We have with us today Krista Daley, senior general counsel; and Paul Aterman, director general, operations branch.
Welcome. I know you have opening statements.