I can briefly add, Mr. Chair, that the main issue was that the immigration department didn't know whether customs was doing a good job in referring people to them. They had a study in the nineties that showed they were referring a whole bunch of people who should not have been referred, and the other way around. Even Immigration themselves at the time didn't know whether their second line was effective. Now that it's done by the same organization, as Ms. Fraser said we'll be quite interested to know whether a single organization knows whether what it's doing is effective. That's something we'll have to—
On June 5th, 2006. See this statement in context.