Okay.
I don't want to give an opinion on Mr. Warman and whether his actions are ethical, but my fundamental point is that the Criminal Code is a very high standard. Proving intent beyond a reasonable doubt is almost impossible. Look at the Supreme Court of Canada, which says the best place to deal with these issues is in the Canadian Human Rights Act or human rights commissions, because it's a civil process, which is much more amenable. It focuses on the effects of the hate speech rather than the intent.
It's almost an impossible burden to prove hate speech cases or hate under the Criminal Code, and the focus of the committee should be on human rights legislation. That's really a fundamental point and I think that's the point of the Supreme Court of Canada.