Okay. Thank you. That's exactly where I was going.
If we want to expand on the relevance here right now, I'll actually bring it full circle, and that's to say this. Somebody was convicted of an offence in 1980 that would no longer be an offence today or would be a different offence that attracts substantially less liability. Perhaps, on the advice of counsel, that person didn't appeal in 1980 because they were told, “You know what? Look, the judge got it right and you have no hope”, or the person said, “Yup, I did it and I'm not going to appeal.” I think that that's highly relevant and highly germane to what we are dealing with here today.
I've seen conviction situations like this. I think we could probably go through the court of appeal decisions from the 1970s and see people who went into a gas station with the intent to rob, and somebody died. There were a number of cases that were decided on this, and I don't think it's actually wrong for us as parliamentarians to explore whether or not that person appealed, or whether that person, period, will have recourse through this commission, and whether the legislation as it is currently written would apply to give that person recourse.
I see that I've been going for a little while here. I'm not sure if Mr. Van Popta was up next or who was up next.