It's indeed a great topic. In fact, with Suncor in particular we have companies that do partner with the organization, such as EnSolve.
I think we heard earlier today from the witnesses about how we need to reduce water and about all the fantastic work that has been done to reduce water. One of the ways we reduce water in different operations like SAGD—steam-assisted gravity drainage—extraction is to substitute solvents for water.
Where do those innovative solvents come from? They come from small companies, but do those small companies have the capacity and the wherewithal to scale up? That's part of the bridging. That's part of the growing: to allow small companies to deal with large companies. That's really what's needed. And you know what? The industry puts their money behind it. When I see that happen, our money is leveraged two or three times over.