Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
Thanks, witnesses. This is very interesting information.
I'd like to start with you, Mr. McGowan. I know that you are an extremely proud Albertan. I know from all the door-knocking I've done in Calgary and Camrose and Red Deer and Edmonton that Albertans are coming around to the idea that resources can't just be frittered away. You raised the important point about Northern Gateway and Keystone. I just wanted to come back to those figures. Here we have a government that has interfered with the market. They've gutted the environmental assessment process and gutted the public consultation process around pipelines with a strong reaction from Canadians.
So they interfered with the market to provide an economic incentive for export. You've given us the figures: 17 full-time on-site jobs for Keystone, 104 for Northern Gateway—they raised that from 78 initially—as opposed to 17,000 for Keystone if the same product were upgraded in Canada, and 26,000 for Northern Gateway. So we're talking about 43,000 jobs as opposed to 121. I think most Canadians get that.
The issue is if the government is interfering with the marketplace, trying to gut everything that Canadians hold dear to try to push particularly Northern Gateway through over the objections of British Columbians, and thereby threatening thousands of jobs that depend on a clean environment, what would the forward-thinking value-added policy framework look like in 2015 when there's a new government? What should that government do to put in place something value-added so instead of frittering away those thousands of jobs, we're actually having those jobs here in Canada and reducing our dependence on foreign supplies of oil?