I think absolutely we are all in favour of value-added. The key differentiation I make is between more value-added versus more processing. If you look across sectors of the Canadian economy, there was a study last week from the University of Calgary, a Trevor Tombe study, that highlighted where the value-added is in the sector. It's in extraction.
But your point is well taken. If there is an opportunity for a market-based non-subsidized refinery upgrader, etc., that isn't dependent on artificially discounted crude, then yes absolutely there is no reason to oppose that.