As I mentioned earlier—at least in Saskatchewan, and we do see it across the country—you typically saw a really big company owning the forest industry. Weyerhaeuser was the dominant investor in Saskatchewan and they owned the sawmills and the pulp mill. It was this idea that they both had to work together. One would support the other in good times and bad, and they'd make these two products, paper and lumber. Then Weyerhaeuser left. They sold everything and walked away and everything closed. We were one of the only independently owned mills. We survived. We were able to maintain some competitive advantages and remained open, which was a big achievement.
The pulp mill that's still running in Meadow Lake went through receivership; it's now foreign-owned. There were all these massive transformational changes and major bankruptcies. They all settled things out, but the industry's a lot less big-thinking than it used to be. There isn't that cohesiveness and that coordinated effort of the past. It's fragile, from the perspective that the relationships aren't that productive amongst the parties. We're kind of different, because we're first nations-owned, but most of those foreign companies don't really understand that. They don't really understand the relationship between first nations and the forest sector, which is obviously a pretty big thing these days. We have a lot of educating to do, typically to help them understand why it's important and why it's a good thing. And I would say the coordinated investment in the industry is really lacking. Those are the big things. Maybe they were there before, but through the crisis they really haven't improved that way.
Regarding the technological innovations, which we've heard lots about today, there's a struggle to get those investments together, so nobody's been plowing a lot of money into massive new mills, at least in Saskatchewan, to build something innovative. It has pretty well been a matter of, how do we keep the traditional industry going? How do we be sustainable? We just had to make a decision to go out on our own and try to be independent and build some new things and make it work.