I think both of those policies—and it specifically states so in the B.C. one—want to create a culture of wood. They want to create a situation where project managers who have to build a new warehouse for the federal government will think of building with wood, where they won't automatically think they have to build with concrete and steel. It creates a culture where wood is part of that picture, whereas it hasn't been.
Really, the main goal here is to make that shift in how people think about building with wood. I think that's where they have been successful. You could say that they're a successful PR campaign in a way, but they create that culture of thinking about wood, and what we heard repeatedly from Michael Green and Bill Downing was to give wood a chance and to consider wood.