Thank you, Chair.
What we've seen from Liberals thus far in this testimony is quite incredible. They're trying to limit witness testimony by moving motions in the middle of their testimony. Liberals are also trying to question the core principle of ministerial accountability. They're trying to suggest that ministers are somehow not responsible for what happens in their departments. This is really unprecedented. I think it's clear that in our system of government, ministers have been responsible for what happens in their departments for hundreds of years. Uniquely, Liberal ministers think they're not responsible for what happens under them.
Ms. Jeffrey, I want to ask you this. Canadians I talk to are horrified and disgusted by what happened with the ArriveCAN app. Do you think those feelings are justified?