We always had the convenience, when we were in hybrid meetings, of seeing the hands up.
Thank you for giving me the floor.
I have something to say, but following on my colleague Mr. Fragiskatos' indication that we have moved quite a long way on this—and I would put myself in that camp—I think this committee not only has the reputation of but has long prided itself in coming to unanimous decisions. That's what gives it its strength, because then it's not a partisan issue. It is an issue of getting to the root of the problem discovered in the Auditor General's reports. Otherwise, what are we doing here?
I'm sorry. I don't want to disparage OGGO, but it becomes a different kind of committee. Mr. McCauley is free to respond to me on that.
I have sat on OGGO. Those were tough sessions we had. There were ongoing negotiations and ongoing initiatives by the government, and risk was definitely.... Risk in procurement, risk in implementation and so on were definitely the issues on the table, as well as who was best to judge the best policy going forward.
As we know, we don't discuss policy here. The policy is rightly the function of government, and that means ministers. Ministers appear before committees, such as government operations, health, public safety or what have you to answer for their policy decisions. What we're concerned with here is implementation, and that is what the Auditor General brings us every time she deposits reports. I believe there are reports coming very shortly. In fact, there are a number of interesting reports. They're all interesting.
I know we were affected by the pandemic and by the ability of the Auditor General to deliver reports in recent months, but it certainly appears that the Auditor General is back on track. Those are reports that I am looking forward to getting to.
On this issue, we had our meeting with the Auditor General about procurement. We heard from the Auditor General. She distributed a news release, and we had testimony, which I'm going to get to in just a moment.
Again, I fail to see how augmenting, if you will, the motion by Madame Sinclair-Desgagné to ensure that PSPC officials who will appear before us are not individually penalized in their ability to answer our questions.... I think that's what the NDA is all about. They have signed these non-disclosure agreements. I worry—and this is a question I want to have answered—about putting those officials on the spot, if you will. They have signed those agreements. Even though it's in camera.... We heard from the Auditor General that being in camera would not even allow her to discuss those contracts with us, the part—