I mean, I look at urban sprawl. Certainly in southern Ontario with the stresses that it's bringing upon us with the Greenbelt now and the engagement, there are a lot of conservation discussions; a lot of people seem to be aware of it. How are we able to prescribe controls to support it? I mean, there's been a constant battle going on for centuries, obviously, and to your point since the 1970s, we have a massive reductions in birds and a huge increase in urbanization.
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