Ms. Clifford, I would like to come back to the essence of my question.
How can research funding in Canada be distributed more equitably for small or medium universities so they are able to expand their scientific research, particularly in health, by receiving funds from the Canadian Institutes of Health Research?
At present, it is a vicious circle: The bigger an institution is, the more chance it has of getting funding. So how can small or medium universities survive? Is everybody going to have to move to Toronto?