Evidence of meeting #90 for Science and Research in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was north.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Lisa Koperqualuk  President, Inuit Circumpolar Council (Canada)
Henry Burgess  Head, Natural Environment Research Council Arctic Office
Susan Kutz  Professor and Tier I Canada Research Chair in Arctic One Health, As an Individual
Warwick Vincent  Professor, Centre for Northern Studies (CEN), Université Laval, As an Individual
Maribeth Murray  Executive Director, Arctic Institute of North America

11:40 a.m.

Head, Natural Environment Research Council Arctic Office

Henry Burgess

It was decided, back in 2018 or 2019, that Canada and the Arctic were priorities for UK Research and Innovation investment. At that point, we began open and frank conversations with funding agencies in Canada to see how we could work together, essentially—how we could bring the best of UK expertise and assets together with Canadian expertise and assets, and, from that, develop the CINUK programme. It was very much as a result of frank and direct conversations with Polar, NRC, Fonds de recherche du Québec, Parks Canada and Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami. Understanding what each partner could bring to the table meant we could then bring this program as a whole together, which works equally well for all three communities.

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NDP

Richard Cannings NDP South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Thank you.

How much time do I have, Chair?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Valerie Bradford

You have 56 seconds.

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NDP

Richard Cannings NDP South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Okay. That's one minute, more or less.

I'm going to turn to Ms. Koperqualuk.

You mentioned the Inuvialuit Community Research Network. I wonder if you could expand on that. How does that work, and what role might the Inuit Circumpolar Council play in projects?

11:40 a.m.

President, Inuit Circumpolar Council (Canada)

Lisa Koperqualuk

This network is under the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation and brand new. They'll be doing research priorities in their communities. They're already quite busy doing research on the impacts of contaminants and plastic pollution on marine mammals, so they're quite active. They're building capacity and self-determination through that community-led research on climate change.

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NDP

Richard Cannings NDP South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Thank you.

I'll leave it there, Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Valerie Bradford

We will now turn to our five-minute round, beginning with MP Michelle Rempel Garner.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Thank you, Chair.

We're at the point where we're trying to drive towards recommendations for a report by the committee. One thing that's been coming up in other testimony has been the need for a formal Arctic research strategy for Canada that links with both the Arctic strategy itself and any potential Arctic defence strategy that the government chooses to make stronger.

I note that the United States has a biannually updated Arctic research strategy that has clear goals and objectives for its research strategy, which also ties into a piece of legislation that the Americans have with regard to Arctic management.

To any of the witnesses, is a specific Arctic research strategy something that the committee should recommend developing to the government?

11:45 a.m.

President, Inuit Circumpolar Council (Canada)

Lisa Koperqualuk

Sure. Definitely. I would say that an Arctic research strategy should include Inuit and Inuit knowledge.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Yes.

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President, Inuit Circumpolar Council (Canada)

Lisa Koperqualuk

As I said in the presentation earlier, we have a lot of research fatigue. Researchers are coming into our communities doing scientific work and being really good western scientists and so on, but that often means that our knowledge is not included, because western science often has trumped Inuit knowledge. It must include it.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

So you're recommending that the government develop a research strategy that includes Inuit indigenous knowledge as an underlying foundation, as part of that strategy.

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President, Inuit Circumpolar Council (Canada)

Lisa Koperqualuk

Exactly. Yes.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Perfect.

The other thing, Laurie, if I may call you that, that I keyed in on was the fact that I think you were trying to say that Canada isn't sufficiently addressing climate change adaptation, either infrastructure or initiatives, in its own Arctic. Is that a correct summary of what you had mentioned in passing earlier?

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President, Inuit Circumpolar Council (Canada)

Lisa Koperqualuk

Did you mean Lisa?

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Lisa. I'm sorry. My apologies. My friend Laurie is on my mind this morning. I'm sorry about that.

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President, Inuit Circumpolar Council (Canada)

Lisa Koperqualuk

Okay.

Yes, I think there are gaps. There could be more efficient communication and more efficient consultations. We can't expect Inuit, who don't have very easy access to the Internet, to be able to answer survey questions just through the Internet. The connection with communities is very important when creating those strategies. That's a gap. It's missing.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

In terms of recommendations, then, as part of an Arctic research strategy that includes Inuit knowledge, one of the recommendations would be a requirement for processes to consult with Inuit community members in ways that are sensitive to the communications needs and context of the community. Would that be correct?

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President, Inuit Circumpolar Council (Canada)

Lisa Koperqualuk

This is correct.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Thank you.

I noted another recommendation. There are five goals within the American research strategy. I'm not saying that we necessarily cut and paste what the Americans have outlined, but it is very goal-focused. You have talked about the need for research around climate adaptation in Canada's Arctic so that it could inform funding. Would that be correct?

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President, Inuit Circumpolar Council (Canada)

Lisa Koperqualuk

That would be correct.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Great.

Are there other specific research areas or goals that you would recommend within your cultural context that an Arctic research strategy should include in Canada?

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President, Inuit Circumpolar Council (Canada)

Lisa Koperqualuk

Other research areas would be inclusive of Inuit definitions of climate change and the impacts of climate change. What does adaptation mean? What are the mitigation costs? With the high cost of living in the north, any transitionary costs cannot just be done without consulting with us. It has to be a just and equitable transition.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

That's a great recommendation.

As well, how could we structure our research? What should the committee be recommending on the content of a research strategy in terms of linkage with your cultural context to a northern sovereignty or a northern defence strategy? What are the research area gaps that an Arctic research plan should include in that context?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Valerie Bradford

That's over the time.

Could we get our witness to submit a written answer? Would you be able to do that, Ms. Koperqualuk?