Evidence of meeting #91 for Science and Research in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was north.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Heather Exner-Pirot  Director, Energy, Natural Resources and Environment, Macdonald-Laurier Institute, As an Individual
Aldo Chircop  Professor of Maritime Law and Policy, As an Individual
Nicolas Brunet  Associate Professor, As an Individual
Jessica M. Shadian  President and Chief Executive Officer, Arctic360

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Valerie Bradford

I call the meeting to order.

Welcome to meeting number 91 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Science and Research.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(i) and the motion adopted by the committee on Tuesday, January 31, 2023, the committee is resuming its study of science and research in Canada's Arctic in relation to climate change.

It is now my pleasure to welcome, as an individual, Aldo Chircop, professor of maritime law and policy. As well, Dr. Heather Exner-Pirot, director of natural resources, energy and environment at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute, is joining us by video conference.

Up to five minutes will be given for opening remarks, after which we will proceed with rounds of questions.

Dr. Exner-Pirot, I invite you to make an opening statement of up to five minutes.

11 a.m.

Dr. Heather Exner-Pirot Director, Energy, Natural Resources and Environment, Macdonald-Laurier Institute, As an Individual

Good morning, Chair and committee members. Thanks for inviting me to appear this morning.

I would like to preface my remarks by sharing my own involvement and experience with Arctic research.

In 2003, I began my career working for the University of the Arctic, a network of universities, colleges, research institutes and other organizations concerned with education and research in and about the north. I later completed my Ph.D. at the University of Calgary in political science, focusing on Arctic security.

After that, I worked at the International Centre for Northern Governance and Development at the University of Saskatchewan. I spent two terms, one as chair, with the Canadian Northern Studies Trust, which administered over $1 million annually in student scholarships.

Currently I am the managing editor of the Arctic Yearbook, an annual peer-reviewed publication focused on Arctic politics and security. I am a global fellow with the Wilson Center's Polar Institute, a member of the North American and Arctic Defence and Security Network. I'm a member of the Yukon Government's Arctic Security Advisory Council, and I sit on the board of the Canadian Rural Revitalization Foundation. My recent work with the Macdonald–Laurier Institute has focused on energy and resource development and on indigenous industry relations in western and northern Canada, but I'm still active in Arctic research.

I say all of this because when we think of Arctic research, we tend to think of climate change and the natural sciences, which is reflected in the study itself. No one will dispute that this is important and a priority. However, the focus on climate change has often come at the expense of other areas of study. The funding bias in favour of environmental sciences and against social sciences, business and engineering is well documented. The University of the Arctic conducted analysis of global academic publications in Arctic research last year. It found that almost a third focused on environmental sciences, while only 9% were in the social sciences, 4% in engineering and 4% in the humanities. A report released in April by UArctic, which was funded by Global Affairs Canada, showed an even starker divide with regard to funding. That's not surprising, as natural science research is structurally more expensive than social science and humanities research. However, it is symbolic of what we prioritize.

I have observed through the conferences I've attended, the research proposals I've assessed and the articles I've peer reviewed that Canadian Arctic studies have their own biases, and research funding gets applied to a relatively narrow set of research questions. Climate change, traditional knowledge, renewable energy and the negative impacts of resource development sit at the top of the list. There's nothing wrong with this list, but there are dozens of other important fields of study that lack funding and people.

I will provide two quick examples.

First, to my knowledge, there is not a single Canadian economist who specializes in the Arctic region. I know of only one or two Arctic economists from Alaska and Russia. Think about that. The region's environment and original inhabitants are well studied, but there is not a robust group of thinkers helping to inform economic development.

The other is the narrow lens we apply to understanding climate change. Looking only at sea ice changes—which is well funded and studied—one might expect shipping in the Canadian Arctic to grow dramatically. In fact, this is often taken for granted and repeated in speeches and op-eds. In my own research, however, I have come to understand that other factors are much more important than sea ice changes with respect to whether shipping increases in the Canadian Arctic, namely the economics of resource development. Investment decisions are tied to commodity cycles, not sea ice melt. I expect the lack of intellectual diversity and multidisciplinarians in Arctic studies means we often miss important considerations for many research questions beyond my own narrow research interests.

Finally, I want to touch on some of the trade-offs of our approach to conducting research with northern and indigenous communities.

There's a long history of scientists using traditional knowledge without requesting permission or providing credit, of entering traditional territories and conducting experiments without notifying or obtaining consent from local governments, and of getting funding to advance scientific goals and academic careers without ever returning knowledge or research that is useful to Arctic communities. This is well acknowledged. I'm sure you have heard, and will hear, from many researchers about the work that has gone on to remediate and change these circumstances, with many new positive relationships. This is to be applauded. However, I've also seen layers of bureaucracy applied to Arctic research that have made it more expensive and exclusive, have placed administrative burdens on indigenous communities and northern governments, and have deterred or prevented young graduate-level researchers from pursuing their interest in Arctic studies because the process is too difficult and lengthy.

There is a balance to be found between exploiting and disregarding northern communities on the one hand and on the other imposing hurdles on research that are so high we simply conduct less important research. I'm not convinced we have found the right balance.

I'm grateful you're taking the time to study this important topic and ensure that the efforts we put into Arctic research provide the greatest possible benefits to Canadians, in particular to those who live in the region. Often a lot of attention is paid to methodology but too little to impact.

Thank you for your attention. I look forward to questions.

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Valerie Bradford

Thank you very much.

We'll now turn to Professor Chircop for an opening statement of five minutes.

11:05 a.m.

Professor Aldo Chircop Professor of Maritime Law and Policy, As an Individual

Thank you, Madam Chair. I thank the standing committee for inviting me to appear before you today.

I appear in my personal capacity as professor of maritime law and policy, with a specialty in the regulation of polar shipping. I am based at Dalhousie University.

My statement today concerns research needs for the governance of Arctic shipping at a time of change in Inuit Nunangat, which is the Inuktitut term for Canadian Arctic waters.

The increasing accessibility of Arctic waters navigation because of climate change and consequential progressive sea ice loss means more ships and more diverse regional shipping. The growth of shipping will have positive and negative consequences. The ability to maximize the potential benefits of shipping while mitigating or even preventing adverse consequences demands robust governance of shipping. I submit that aspects of both the international and domestic governance of polar shipping are not sufficient to protect the unique and most sensitive Arctic marine environment.

Despite celebrating 10 years in existence, the International Maritime Organization's polar code is a first-generation instrument. It was the product of consensus, based on the lowest common denominator—that is, what IMO member states were able to agree to. Hence, despite proposals to address broader environmental concerns with respect to shipping, it focused only on oily waste and noxious liquid substances in bulk sewage and garbage, but it did not regulate air pollution, including black carbon, ballast water management, grey water, underwater noise or other environmental risks in the polar context. Even on maritime safety, some of the polar code standards are insufficient, such as the one on safety equipment to enable survivability until rescue.

Recently Canada succeeded in persuading the IMO to designate Canadian Arctic waters as an emission control area for sulphur oxides, nitrogen oxides and particulate matter under the International Convention for the Prevention of Pollution from Ships. This will be formally adopted in October of this year. To comply with the emission control standards, a ship will either have to use low-sulphur-content fuel or install a scrubber, which is a machine on board the ship to remove the sulphur and thereby allow the ship to still be able to use heavy fuel oil. In particular, open-loop scrubbers produce highly acidic wash water containing harmful substances that pollute the marine environment.

It might be argued that the IMO ban on the use and carriage for use of heavy fuel oil in Arctic waters, which becomes effective on July 1 of this year, may mitigate the pollution risks. However, for some ships that meet a particular construction standard, the regulation takes effect only on July 1, 2029. Also, Arctic coastal states, including Canada, may waive the ban for their ships until July 1, 2029. The effect is to prolong the risk of heavy fuel oil in the Arctic marine environment until 2029.

Indeed there is great need for more research to help better understand safety and environmental regulatory weaknesses in polar shipping and thereby to help integrate and update international standards. There is a further dimension to all of this, and that is that a robust governance system needs regulatory equity. Inuit organizations were not involved in the development of the IMO polar code. Their voices and knowledge could have significantly aided regulatory development but were not considered. It was only recently that the Inuit Circumpolar Council was granted provisional consultative status at the IMO so that Inuit voices could be heard and could inform regulatory development.

While there is extensive scholarly research on Arctic shipping generally, there is relatively little research on the interface between maritime regulation—how we regulate ships, in other words—and indigenous rights generally, and especially Inuit rights, Inuit traditional knowledge—known as IQ—and Inuit law. As an aside, the Qanittaq clean Arctic shipping initiative, which is a new research project recently funded through the Canada first research excellence fund and co-led by Memorial University of Newfoundland and the ICC, is leading a consortium of universities, including my university, to commence this type of research.

Madam Chair, I conclude my statement with two matters.

First, there is a need to review the adequacy and robustness of international polar shipping standards and their implementation in Canada and Inuit Nunangat, how gaps can be addressed and how environmental and safety standards can be strengthened in an integrated manner.

Second, there is a need to support capacity building for Inuit organizations to enable meaningful engagement in the complexities of the governance of polar shipping.

Thank you. Merci. Nakurmiik.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Valerie Bradford

Thank you very much for your opening statement.

We'll now follow up with questions from the floor. Please be sure to indicate to whom your questions are directed.

We'll start a question round for six minutes with MP Rempel Garner.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Thank you, Chair.

I'll direct my questions to Dr. Exner-Pirot. It's always nice to address another Calgarian, even if it's virtually.

We've heard a lot of testimony at the committee about the importance of having a national Arctic research strategy that could link some of the objectives of Canada's Arctic strategy as well as some of our defence strategies. Is this something you would recommend?

11:10 a.m.

Director, Energy, Natural Resources and Environment, Macdonald-Laurier Institute, As an Individual

Dr. Heather Exner-Pirot

That's a great question.

I have been involved with the Inuit Development Corporation Association on some elements of northern modernization. I have written on particular innovations that would be useful, not only for communities and for mining development but also for defence, specifically with regard to transportation, energy and communications. The special little innovative technologies that I like and think should be tested more greatly in the Arctic are things like microreactors. We are seeing—

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

I only have six minutes, so I'm going to try to get through as many questions—

11:15 a.m.

Director, Energy, Natural Resources and Environment, Macdonald-Laurier Institute, As an Individual

Dr. Heather Exner-Pirot

The answer is yes. There are many things that we should be applying.

June 6th, 2024 / 11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Okay. I think you're pre-empting some of my next questions, which is great.

What should the content of that report or that strategy focus on? You've presented some non-obvious, non-partisan observations to the committee that really haven't been brought up by any other experts in committee testimony—specifically, that Canada's Arctic research strategy should include economic analysis and foreign policy posture recommendations.

Could you go through specific bullet point examples or recommendations of areas that should be included in an Arctic research strategy that really we don't have a focus on right now, and why those would be important?

11:15 a.m.

Director, Energy, Natural Resources and Environment, Macdonald-Laurier Institute, As an Individual

Dr. Heather Exner-Pirot

Number one for me is economic development. That's what I focus on. However, I think there is a bias towards looking at resource development and economic development as normatively bad, maybe as capitalism or exploitation—yet when you talk to people in the territories or indigenous communities, they would like to see development. They would just like to have some control and ownership and partnership in it.

I don't think that's represented in academia.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

On that point, in some testimony we have heard.... Certainly, in Canada's Arctic strategy right now, there are one or two throwaway lines saying that communities wanted natural resource developments and that they were consulted. However, that is not reflected in the body of the overall Arctic strategy.

What recommendations could the committee make to ensure that an Arctic research strategy looks at resource development in a more neutral way than perhaps has been presented by the government in the past?

11:15 a.m.

Director, Energy, Natural Resources and Environment, Macdonald-Laurier Institute, As an Individual

Dr. Heather Exner-Pirot

Exactly.

It could be funding. Again, I think we need some graduate students. As I say, there are no economists I know of who look at the Arctic. There are very few political scientists, like me, who look at the political economy. We need to build some of that capacity, even statistical analysis—things that are left to the territories themselves right now.

I would also say engineering. Again, it gets very little. I don't think there are lots of engineers who have been to the Canadian Arctic. I find that the ability to develop new technologies that serve the very distinct needs of remote communities are not going to be developed by people who have never been there. We need to bring together that collaboration of the communities and the engineers to figure out what actually works in those communities and what technical challenges they have. I think we are still doing 20th-century technologies, poorly, in the Arctic.

That's economic development and engineering. I had a third one in mind.

You mentioned foreign policy. We tend to focus on defence. We focus on legal aspects, I think, but our foreign policy has been getting weaker. For the Arctic region as a whole, there is less attention paid to foreign policy.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

The last thing that I found really important in your remarks was the fact that the interaction with first nations and indigenous persons in the Arctic seems to be a one-way street. That underscores the fact that the conversation on resource development as well seems to be very ideologically rigid in terms of it being “bad”.

What recommendation would you make for an Arctic research strategy that would alleviate what I think is an entrenched, rigid ideology that is rarely challenged in Canadian academia or in federal funding structures?

11:15 a.m.

Director, Energy, Natural Resources and Environment, Macdonald-Laurier Institute, As an Individual

Dr. Heather Exner-Pirot

I say this as someone who's worked in universities and who now works in think tanks—maybe for a reason.

Everyone I know who's in Arctic research is a good person and doing their best, so I don't mean to diminish anyone, but of course the backgrounds of people who are interested in Arctic studies, who like to go out and work on the land and do field research and who work in a university are a particular subset of person. They tend to have the same values. I think a lot of things get missed because there isn't a lot of intellectual diversity and maybe professional diversity—

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

In the last seconds I have here, you're recommending that a Canadian Arctic research strategy have an actual stated value of intellectual diversity as something we should be striving for on policy in Arctic research.

11:20 a.m.

Director, Energy, Natural Resources and Environment, Macdonald-Laurier Institute, As an Individual

Dr. Heather Exner-Pirot

I would think so. Maybe even list the different sections or the different disciplines for which you would hope to fund research, so they don't all funnel into the same silo.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Thank you.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Valerie Bradford

Thank you very much.

We will now turn to MP Diab for six minutes.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Thank you very much, Madam Chair.

Welcome to both of our witnesses this morning.

I'll direct my questions to Dr. Chircop.

It's always nice to see an Atlantic Canadian, particularly a Haligonian, and a professor of maritime law from Dalhousie.

Dr. Chircop, there are two things I'd like to ask you about, and I'm going to give you time to actually respond.

Let me just ask the questions first.

You talked about two important things—probably more, but two. One was that greater research is needed on safety and environmental aspects. Then you also stressed the importance of Inuit participation in maritime regulation and shipping.

With regard to the second point, how might we follow up with the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples Act with regard to the shipping in the Arctic?

I'm going to give you all the time you need.

11:20 a.m.

Prof. Aldo Chircop

Thank you very much.

I realize that the time is probably limited to the six minutes that you have. They're excellent questions, and I thank you very much for those.

Certainly, on the safety side, because of the remoteness of the region and the lack of infrastructure, we know that we have some real challenges if we have a need for humanitarian assistance for users of the marine environment in remote areas. Our capacity to intervene, the farther north we go, is significantly limited. There is safety from the angle of search and rescue and also safety for those who provide search and rescue services. There is also the dimension of safety for those on board ships.

We're beginning to see more and more interest from cruise ships and also small pleasure craft. What we have to consider here is that we do have international standards for equipment to enable survival until rescue services reach those in distress. What we know now through research is that those standards are insufficient. They are essentially aimed at ensuring survivability for up to five days, in terms of clothing, supplies and so on. However, because of remoteness, we might need more than five days to reach somebody in distress. In the meantime, their equipment and the levels of nutrition they need would not be sufficient to enable them to survive.

With the current standards that we have, there is a real danger that we could have—God forbid—a situation with major casualties. We could be looking at very serious risks to human life. Clearly, we need safety on board ships—safety standards for surviving, but also safety for those who work on board ships.

With respect to the second question—in particular, with respect to the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples Act—the committee will recall that this important piece of federal legislation has committed Canada to implement UNDRIP and essentially to review federal legislation to enable its implementation.

Essentially, the commitment there is generic, basically, to any legislation that is relevant. I would argue that this would include maritime legislation. Indeed, that includes the legal frameworks we have for the regulation of shipping right across the country, including, of course—because we have an interest in the Arctic—in the north.

That would mean, for instance, that we would need to take another look at the Canada Shipping Act, 2001; the Arctic Waters Pollution Prevention Act; and a range of other statutes. Indeed, we have a long list of statutes and maritime law that apply in the north, and we need to see how UNDRIP can be implemented through these statutes.

I'll give you an example of the relevance of UNDRIP here for informing federal legislation. There is a duty in UNDRIP for states to protect the environment in a manner to enable indigenous peoples to exercise their rights. We have to be particularly cognizant here of the range of risks to the environment we are seeing from potential industrialization in the north, which may therefore adversely affect the interests of indigenous peoples. More ships, for example, will mean more noise. More noise will have impacts on a range of species and ecosystems. Plus, of course, more ships may require more icebreaking for the shoulder seasons and so on, which means there's the potential of disrupting Inuit ice routes, the movement of animals on ice and so on.

There is a range of potential environmental impacts here that we can anticipate. Therefore, it would be important for us to have the legal framework that anticipates these potential risks.

I hope I've answered your questions.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

You have. Thank you.

We've heard previous testimony on the increased frequency of wildfires and flooding. Based on your studies, how can we help to better protect infrastructure for climate change resilience? Are you able to offer any advice on that?

11:25 a.m.

Prof. Aldo Chircop

Unfortunately, my background has not enabled me to address other aspects of infrastructure, other than infrastructure to support shipping. Of course, the major concern we do have in the north is the relative lack of infrastructure.

There has been progress in terms of undertaking hydrographic surveys and thinking perhaps of developing and strengthening port facilities in the north, of which we have very few, and potentially also navigation aids and so on. The concern for shipping is not so much the wildfires and so on in northern regions, but perhaps more what climate change might mean to the little infrastructure we have there—for instance, infrastructure that may rely on permafrost for its stability. The loss of permafrost would of course be a threat to infrastructure.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Thank you. I think we're at this point.

Thank you very much, Madam Chair, and thank you, Dr. Chircop, for appearing this morning.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Valerie Bradford

Thank you.

We'll now turn to MP Blanchette-Joncas for six minutes.