Well, it's not just the union's role to build that; it's the department's role as well to come to the table and actually collaborate and consult, which hasn't happened.
We attended a national labour management meeting at which the department took away UVAE's individual and national LMCC, which is labour management consultation committees, and turned it into a joint meeting, and I've documented very clearly that we need to go back to UVAE's specific meeting for that.
I meet with some of the senior managers every couple of weeks in a bilateral meeting, and I am always harping on consultation and collaboration.