Mr. Speaker, the hon. member is addressing issues of substantive constitutional change on which he has spoken most learnedly and thoughtfully under the rubric of a vote on estimates. While this is customary in American constitutional law and with the United States Congress, there are more direct arenas available.
For example, it has been indicated by the opposition party that the issue of institutional change and Senate reform will be introduced by it on its merits next week. I suggest a more direct route would be better for approaching the substantive constitutional changes he desires. I do not think we need the device which the Americans for want of a similar opportunity of a direct debate have done; that is to say, tacking substantive constitutional change issues on to a motion on estimates or the budget.