Transport committee  Let's see if I understand what you're asking me here. You're referring to Judge Moshansky perhaps?

Transport committee  If I understand you correctly, you're indicating to me that you have information that says our safety performance in this country has deteriorated in the last five years?

Transport committee  We're not in fact turning to the private sector. What we're doing is increasing their accountability. As I said in my opening remarks, sir, on the safety management system requirements, those regulations are in addition to what is already there. In fact, I often say, when asked this question, that the first requirement of a safety management system is to clearly show how you're complying with the current regulations.

Transport committee  These days we have around 800 inspectors engaged in oversight activities.

Transport committee  I'm not certain of those figures, but they certainly haven't decreased. In fact, there may have been some increases. I can come back to you with the exact numbers. There has been no dramatic change in the last five years in the total number of inspectors.

Transport committee  I think we all realize that the Canada Labour Code is “notwithstanding” legislation. That means that what the enterprises involved in safety management systems will have to do is create a system in which the obligations of the Canada Labour Code are clearly met. We have a working agreement with Labour Canada on how we are going to deal with any conflicts.

Transport committee  Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Bon après-midi à tous. Good afternoon, everybody. I am pleased to have the opportunity to appear before the Standing Committee on Transport, Infrastructure, and Communities for its study of Bill C-6, proposed legislation to amend the Aeronautics Act.

Transport committee  Are you asking about accessing the database or about accessing the information? Those are two different things. To give access to the database would cause, again, privacy concerns, because that database would be open. It's not scrubbed to deal with privacy issues. In terms of getting access to a report from that, it's a matter of using ATIP, and then it's available.

Transport committee  I'll use another word instead of “information”; I'll call them reports from that database. We can draw reports out of the database; that respects the privacy requirements. As to how those are distributed and how they're available, we're in the process of developing that policy, but I can certainly get back to you on that.

Transport committee  I'm always anxious to answer, Mr. Chairman. Frankly, this has been the single outstanding issue from the industry's perspective: what about this burden? We are getting very close to the end in terms of analyzing the pilot projects that have been out there now for the better part of a year.

Transport committee  In the particular incident you're referring to, we're in the process of determining exactly what was said to whom and when. We're in the process of determining if in fact there are any safety issues, and we'll be more than pleased to report back on that once we have the information.

Transport committee  Mr. Julian, I think it's a very good question, and it comes up repeatedly. If you're to make a safety management system work, if you're to be able to find out what's going on in a particular operation, you need, as Marc has said and you've repeated, to have a free flow of information.

Transport committee  Do you want me to start with the flight attendants or Bill C-6?

Transport committee  On the CADRS issue?

Transport committee  Okay. On the flight attendant side, vis-à-vis Air France, the data would indicate that we're probably not going to learn very much from the safety board's report. What I'm getting at here is that in the case of the Air France accident at Toronto, Air France was required by the European regulations to carry a minimum of six cabin flight attendants.