Information & Ethics committee  Right, and that's the key, to lay down some crystal-clear rules around how to remove those identifiers, and do so in a way that anticipates the worst possible results in those scenarios. I think part of the reason this crept up on us is that Canadian federalism has its great points and it has some weak points.

Information & Ethics committee  In 2001 and 2002, I worked with a great team and a great minister—Norm Sterling, for those of you who remember him—to develop a made-in-Ontario privacy regime. Those rules were meant to protect the public but also to provide a competitive and predictable environment to attract technology firms to Ontario.

Information & Ethics committee  For sure.

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you, Chair. Thanks for the explanation earlier. To use Mr. Kent's language, I am an ex-minion of provincial and municipal experience, and so I fully understand what's happening before me here, and maybe even expect it a little, so no trouble. Chair and members of the committee, as the Toronto Region Board of Trade's vice-president of public affairs, I'm here on behalf of the board's 13,000 members.