Agriculture committee  Yes. There's us, and then there are two little ones.

Agriculture committee  The rest stops outside of us are not what you're looking for. The rest stops that they need to get to are the ones before you get to us, because we're on that 36-hour rule.

Agriculture committee  It's just because of road conditions or accidents or....

Agriculture committee  It's privately funded. Nobody funded me. I built this business from the ground up.

Agriculture committee  Yes, the people who own the cattle pay.

Agriculture committee  The safety hazards are tremendous. There is no place to park, and this road is not straight. It's up and down with hills and curves. If you have a truck parked at the bottom of a hill at the end of a two-lane passing and a guy comes over the top of the hill, all he sees are tail lights.

Agriculture committee  That's very true. When that driver drives an hour, he's already slept eight hours. If he drives an hour and then has to sit here for eight hours and then reload and go, he's burned nine hours of his clock because his clock was running. Now, on a 16-hour window, he only has nine hours left to drive.

Agriculture committee  Nothing ever goes the way it's supposed to. The guy who said that it should all go this way is full of shit, because you can't do anything right when you're working with cows. Especially with cows, they've got a mind of their own and they're bigger than I am. They're going to do whatever they want to do, whenever they want to do it.

Agriculture committee  Thank you for having me here. I'm Andy Livingston. My wife and I run the feed and water station in Thunder Bay called The Barn. We look after all the livestock going east and west. We're right in the centre of the country. We move about 240,000 to 250,000 animals through our place every year.