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Industry committee  I want to start by saying something. It sounds like a paradox, but I believe it is true. More prescriptive requirements will not necessarily lead to more protection of personal information. I think it needs to be heard. It's not that because we are adding a lot of burden on organizations, it's going to be better for the public.

November 23rd, 2023Committee meeting

Antoine Guilmain

Industry committee  I'm going to be very blunt. I'm not equipped to respond to your question.

November 23rd, 2023Committee meeting

Antoine Guilmain

Industry committee  A general thought would be that I don't see it as a particular problem, because that's what we see. Having seen many laws across the world, it's never unified. I think this is something impossible. Even in Canada, we have the private sector laws in B.C., Alberta and Quebec, and the federal statute at the moment.

November 23rd, 2023Committee meeting

Antoine Guilmain

Industry committee  There's a fairly fundamental difference. As you know, when it comes to privacy, the notion of consent is central. It's all about consent. We're talking about either express consent implicitly or an exception to consent. That's how Bill C‑27, the current federal act and the Quebec act are built.

November 23rd, 2023Committee meeting

Antoine Guilmain

Industry committee  I'd first like to mention that our federal legislation, the Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act, PIPEDA, is a quality piece of legislation. I wouldn't say that there's an urgent need to act, but that's a very personal opinion. There are fairly broad concepts in PIPEDA that already allow companies to do very good things.

November 23rd, 2023Committee meeting

Antoine Guilmain

Industry committee  In terms of aligning with the European Union, I must say that it will require an analysis that may take years. Japan recently received a suitability decision and is considered a good country for the transfer of personal information. This is the result of years of work by the European Commission.

November 23rd, 2023Committee meeting

Antoine Guilmain

Industry committee  At the moment, conceptually, Bill C‑27 is quite compatible with Bill 25. I would even say that, in many respects, Bill 25 is stricter than Bill C‑27. I'll go further than that: Bill 25 is one of the strictest laws in the world. That has to be recognized. In my practice, I work with international clients, whether they are based in the United States, Europe or Latin America, and today, they look at Bill 25 and say that it's really one of the most complicated laws to implement and that it's difficult to comply with it.

November 23rd, 2023Committee meeting

Antoine Guilmain

Industry committee  Yes. I would like to take a look at what is being done in Europe at the moment. Of course, the GDPR has been a change for them, and privacy, children's privacy, was a key consideration. Because it's extremely difficult to provide prescriptive requirements, they instead relied heavily on the notion of “best interest of the child”, and this is working.

November 23rd, 2023Committee meeting

Antoine Guilmain

Industry committee  Mr. Chair, committee members, thank you for inviting me to comment on Bill C‑27. Although I'll be testifying in English today, I'll answer your questions in either French or English. I'm co-leader of the national cybersecurity and data protection group at Gowling WLG. I'm a practising lawyer called to the bars of Quebec and Paris.

November 23rd, 2023Committee meeting

Antoine Guilmain