Public Accounts committee  Yes, last year we did a complete assessment of our canine detection program. The results are available on our website, but I would be pleased to share these results with you. From the standpoint of a return on investment, this is a very beneficial program. The results speak for themselves.

Public Accounts committee  Yes. There is a question of our legal ability to use intelligence when we make such decisions. I'll let Mr. Rigby respond.

Public Accounts committee  The agency brings in approximately $27 billion per year.

Public Accounts committee  In addition to the balance we have to strike between the security and prosperity of Canada, we have three basic responsibilities: security, facilitating trade and collecting revenue, which is a significant responsibility. Twenty-seven billion dollars represents the amount of money it takes to fund post-secondary education in Canada.

Public Accounts committee  I could provide you with this information later on. I do not know the figures off by heart. Perhaps my colleagues know them.

Public Accounts committee  At the time the audit was done, we had already dealt with part of the solution to that problem. That is to create a feedback loop just in airports—that's the only place where we were ahead of the game—that would allow the people at the primary inspection line, the people at secondary, and management to measure performance from that perspective: the quality of the referral to secondary.

Public Accounts committee  With respect to the most critical area—the one that I believe you are flagging, the work of targeters—all of the analysis has been done. We have recently had a workshop of the key people to put in place and start the development. I believe the training itself is in a few months, but I'll ask Madam Munroe.

Public Accounts committee  They definitely do as part of our original training package for all officers. They spend weeks in our training centre in Rigaud. We also have additional training with officers where there would have been some specific problems. We get complaints regularly, as you do. The role of our officers is a very, very difficult one.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, I'll give you my personal opinion on that. I stand by everything that was written in that report. Everything you've read and said is true. Now your question is fundamentally, as a parliamentarian, what should you get and what would you like to get? I sit on a few boards.

Public Accounts committee  Coming to Canada?

Public Accounts committee  They are on Canadian soil when they come into Canada. All of our offices are on Canadian soil.

Public Accounts committee  Up until very recently, Mr. Chair, we had in place the safe third country agreement with the United States that, for very many categories of refugee seekers, allowed us to do exactly what you suggest we should be doing--that is, if they come first to the United States, they can make their claim there.

Public Accounts committee  Absolutely. If somebody wants to know why they have been referred to secondary, for example, the answer is exactly the one that you have given. The system may force somebody to go to secondary because of one zillion combinations of reasons, but all having to do with what we have in our system.

Public Accounts committee  Yes, I recently looked at this question again, because I was getting a few more complaints than in the past. Let's look at the numbers first. The first point that's made—not here, but it's one I get all the time—is that we are turning more people away for that reason, for driving under the influence.

Public Accounts committee  I have conversations with the minister on security questions regularly. But I can tell you that I don't think of or see a place where obtaining the information, other than from a logistics perspective, is a problem. The limit to the exchange of information is always a legal limit.