Public Accounts committee  The formal recurrent training you will find in other sectors of our oversight mandate does not exist in the same way under SMS. The main reason is that we are still very much in a learning phase as we go through this. So to package the recurrent training as a broadly targeted training is probably not very efficient or effective at this time.

Public Accounts committee  Yes, absolutely. Everybody has the basic training. It's updated as we find new requirements. And at the end of the day, we will be formalizing the recurrent training.

Public Accounts committee  With respect to the process, if there's an immediate threat to safety discovered by any means, through the compliance-based means or the systematic risk management process, we'll take immediate action as required. The situations we come across are not, obviously, black and white.

Public Accounts committee  In the planning for SMS, did we let that happen? Is that your question?

Public Accounts committee  With respect to the SMS implementation, it's a different regulatory regime. The observations are made against risk assessments using the compliance-based system that's there. Are there regional differences? I would expect there should be, because the environments are different.

Public Accounts committee  It's a different system. In fact, one of the things we should point out is that SMS has now become a buzzword, like Kleenex. And guess what? There are different brands of Kleenex. The brand that's in Biggar and being used in the CBAA is not nearly as demanding as—

Public Accounts committee  Certainly. That's not a problem. The documentation is there; the review is there.

Public Accounts committee  A specific audit on A.D. Williams? To my knowledge, not in the terms you're describing. We've gone back to the oversight requirements that were in place at the time, and we're still reviewing that particular part of the work. We have to keep in mind that what we have in place in Canada doesn't exist anyplace else in the world.

Public Accounts committee  If the assumption is that we would automatically do a safety audit after a loss of life, then I would have to disagree with you on that point. The process is that we take a look at each individual occurrence and decide on appropriate action. At this point we are reviewing this accident with the association, and we are also participating with the safety board as they go through their process.

Public Accounts committee  The co-benefits, I guess, would be in the area that this is where the aviation industry globally is going, and any part we can play in making that move is very important to us, to our reputation. We have somewhere around $25 billion of industry, and not one aeronautical product or service moves across our borders or is used in our country without some sort of safety certification.

Public Accounts committee  The deadline is imposed through an exemption to the rule, which has been in place since 2005. If we need to modify that implementation period based on whatever risks appear before us, then we're more than willing to do that. At this point in time, we have no indication that the industry involved in this particular implementation will not be ready and will not pass the evaluations that are the final step in the implementation plan.

Public Accounts committee  In terms of improvement, the latest numbers I have show we've reduced that to 12%, but let me assure you all that our inspectors are not asked to carry out any duties for which they are not trained. That is the policy. If they are in a position where they are not ready to carry out a task, you'll probably find them under some sort of on-the-job training protocol.

Public Accounts committee  With respect to civil aviation, the regional plans have been done, but they have not been coordinated, which is, of course, an essential recommendation from the auditor. With respect to finalization, it will take some time to identify each and every part that's required. We have no road map to follow, since we're leading this type of implementation globally.

Public Accounts committee  Yes, sir.

Transport committee  No, not at all. In fact, the system is set up such that we will have the capacity to do things the way we've been doing them in the past, if that should prove to be necessary.