Transport committee  No. I think my colleague has hit it right on the head. The concern I have and I think a lot of us have had, even at the SARM, is that if you start talking real-time and knowing ahead of time what's going through, it brings other risks into play and you have to be careful.

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  What we have done—and I know there have been some questions about the products moving through—is to be very respectful of the industry and also of the communities. We have said that if you know the product is going through or what types of product are going through, you can train your firefighters and you can have the equipment you need to look after that.

Transport committee  Thank you. We have heard that. I think it's very important that they've done that and that we look at it, because even in the province of Saskatchewan with petroleum, we're finding that there are three really different types of petroleum being exported from Saskatchewan. We have the Bakken formation, the heavy oil, and the crude coming out of the Shaunavon play that you can virtually throw a flame into and it won't ignite.

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  Thank you for that. Yes, actually my colleague, Jacques and I both sit on the FCM national safety review committee, so we have been engaged on this side of it. Forgive me—the first part of your question was about...?

Transport committee  I can only speak from Saskatchewan's perspective, and I know issues in higher-density population areas are a lot different than those where we are. What we've been talking about in our province for regulations at crossings is that there has to be community engagement and community involvement on what type of crossings are wanted; whether it is lighted gates or whether it's a stop sign that does it for some communities.

Transport committee  I think that's between the municipalities and the companies.

Transport committee  Yes, thank you. FCM is, and I think they have their railway proximity committee that does a lot of work on this, talking about the whole liability issue and concerns about development getting closer to the railway system. So there has been some good discussion. I think there have been some good recommendations come out of FCM on that side of it.

Transport committee  I agree with you. I think it's a partnership that has to happen. I think communication will be the key. I think that's very important when you have an incident on the communication strategy and working with the first responders in those communities and having them have the equipment and also have the training that is required to do that.

Transport committee  Thanks for the question. I guess our biggest concerns in Saskatchewan with the trains and the length of them is their travel through communities and access to communities and access to emergency services in the event of something happening. We have had communities report that trains going through have cut off access in excess of 20 minutes and greater.

Transport committee  In our provinces, we've looked at it whether it has to be on the train or whether it has to be in the community. I think access to it is the big thing. Mr. Tweed's concern is of course the same as it is in rural Saskatchewan. It's getting the people to where the incident is at that time anyways.

Transport committee  Okay.

Transport committee  I think it has to be shared because once they put the product on the line they've lost control of the product.

Transport committee  Yes, it is.