Environment committee  Thank you. Brian, I represent the riding of Steveston—Richmond East, which is just south of Vancouver. In the greater Vancouver area, there has been a movement towards organic farming and towards a place-based agriculture. I'm trying to wrap my head around the whole concept of no-till seeding.

Environment committee  Mr. Chair, thank you. I'd like to thank the witnesses for appearing. Ron, I'd like to start with you. You talked about a bioeconomy strategy. Can you talk a bit about what a national strategy would look like and what roles the various players—the provincial and federal governments, stakeholders and farmers—would have?

Environment committee  No, please go ahead.

Environment committee  Ms. Butts and Mr. Honegger, perhaps you don't get into this, but you didn't talk about how you've restructured structures. Do you get into that? Do you simply provide goods that you put in houses or condos?

Environment committee  That's what I thought, but you really didn't talk about that much.

Environment committee  Thank you.

Environment committee  Mr. Chair, thank you. I'd like to welcome the witnesses and thank them for their testimony. I'd like to begin with the Biological Carbon Canada group. Mr. McCabe, I was fascinated by your presentation. You're talking about husbandry. You're talking about a change in the agricultural system.

Environment committee  I don't recall who mentioned the concept for our nutritional systems, but can one of you elaborate a bit on that?

Environment committee  We haven't talked about the agricultural framework that is funded both provincially and federally. Are there innovative programs there that we can work on to enhance the transition of the type of agriculture you are talking about?

Environment committee  Let's just call it the framework.

Environment committee  Mr. Chair, thank you. Ms. Miller and Mr. Moffatt, thank you for attending. Both of you in your presentations talked about innovation. In the variables, Mr. Moffatt talked about diet and the importance of the input. I got the sense that Mr. Moffatt was looking more at livestock, and obviously Ms.

Environment committee  Are there thoughts of looking at that and comparing the two systems? It's interesting that, pretty well from a standing start of zero, in 10 years the market of the organic industry in Canada has gone up to $5 billion. In fact, there's a shortage of organic products in Canada and we need to import that.

Environment committee  Sure. Mr. Moffatt, you talk about income support and insurance. Can you elaborate on the work you've done and how that would impact on reduction?

Environment committee  He uses it freely, much more freely than Mr. Aldag.

Environment committee  That's a good thing. This is less of a question and more of a statement about what you've just outlined here. Kent Mullinix, head of sustainable agriculture at Kwantlen University in Richmond, is actually doing just that. That's just a point there. I'd like to follow up with Mr.