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Government Operations committee  This could be a scenario that applies in your riding if the consumption profile is roughly the same as the country average.

June 17th, 2024Committee meeting

Yves Giroux

Government Operations committee  I answered this question a little earlier, but I would be pleased to repeat my answer. What Environment and Climate Change Canada officials suggested or told us was not to publish this information that they had provided to us, because it was confidential. That said, in no case did the government or anyone representing the government prevent me from publishing a report or dictate to me the conclusions of a report.

June 17th, 2024Committee meeting

Yves Giroux

Government Operations committee  Your conclusion is correct: I was not muzzled.

June 17th, 2024Committee meeting

Yves Giroux

Government Operations committee  When we include the economic impact of the fuel charge and the output-based pricing system, it's true that the majority of households are worse off. We are in the process of updating our analysis to try to isolate the fuel charge, the impact of the fuel charge itself.

June 17th, 2024Committee meeting

Yves Giroux

Government Operations committee  That is our understanding. They arrived at an estimate of negative 0.9%, rounded to 1% of GDP when including the fuel charge and the output-based pricing system, where we had 1.3% in 2030. That's in the ballpark and is very close for that type of analysis.

June 17th, 2024Committee meeting

Yves Giroux

Government Operations committee  Our report also included the output-based pricing system, so it's not just the fuel charge. It's the fuel charge and the output-based pricing system. Considering the economic impacts and the fiscal impacts of both measures, yes, the majority of households are worse off.

June 17th, 2024Committee meeting

Yves Giroux

Government Operations committee  We know it's true if you factor in the fuel charge and the output-based pricing system. We are in the process of updating our analysis to isolate the impact of the fuel charge.

June 17th, 2024Committee meeting

Yves Giroux

Government Operations committee  I still believe that. The government has also been quoting that number. I assume it's based on its independent estimate, when taking into account the amount of fuel charge paid, directly and indirectly, minus the rebate provided to them.

June 17th, 2024Committee meeting

Yves Giroux

Government Operations committee  I don't know the number by heart.

June 17th, 2024Committee meeting

Yves Giroux

Government Operations committee  I would say about four.

June 17th, 2024Committee meeting

Yves Giroux

Government Operations committee  It's hard to have a definitive number because it varies across jurisdictions, but roughly speaking, we've been saying eight out of 10 or four out of five. It's in that ballpark.

June 17th, 2024Committee meeting

Yves Giroux

Government Operations committee  That's our understanding, as well as that of the government.

June 17th, 2024Committee meeting

Yves Giroux

Government Operations committee  It depends on precisely what policy action is being taken.

June 17th, 2024Committee meeting

Yves Giroux

Government Operations committee  I don't know the exact profile of people in your community. We've done—

June 17th, 2024Committee meeting

Yves Giroux

Government Operations committee  That would depend on the exact profile of the people in your community.

June 17th, 2024Committee meeting

Yves Giroux