Procedure and House Affairs committee  Were you surprised, Mr. MacKinnon, when the leader of the official opposition didn't even bother to issue a single tweet saying “thank you” to a president who travelled across the globe and whose country is currently at war against a dictator who has no regard for democracy whatsoever?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Mr. MacKinnon. I believe that wraps up my time, Madam Chair.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'll turn the last minute over to Mrs. Romanado.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I have a point of order.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Madam Chair, the rules of the House of Commons on what happens in our chamber extend to committees. To suggest that a member is not honourable by saying "You have no shame" is certainly out of order in our chamber and therefore would certainly be out of order in this room. I would kindly request that Mr.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I guess the precedent has been set by Mr. Cooper, but out of curiosity, Mr. MacKinnon, have you ever given a TV interview with there being in the background a flag with a swastika drawn on it?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Unfortunately, that can't be said for all members who sit at this table.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. I certainly tried to bring us to relevance during Mr. Cooper's comments. However, I was unsuccessful, and he has now set a precedent. In any event, you concluded your comments, Mr. MacKinnon, by saying that the government stands unequivocally with Ukraine.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Can you say the same thing for all 338 members of Parliament?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I have a point of order.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Madam Chair, we're clearly talking about the incident that occurred in the House of Commons and the impacts of it. That's what the study is about. I understand there might be some questions that stray just partially outside of the line, but now we're into a line of questioning that has absolutely nothing to do with our study.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I have another point of order when you're done.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  That's fair, but again, on a point of order, we're here to ask witnesses—as we did very respectfully in the first panel—for information in order to provide content for our report. Mr. Cooper is not only entertaining discussion outside of the scope of the work; he's literally asking the witness now for something that has nothing to do with the actual report.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  When an event like this does go on in the room, even though it's not an official sitting, you still have access to the tools that you would normally have access to, with time constraints considered as well, correct?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  That's all I have, Madam Chair.