Finance committee  Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Mr. Gilbert, you ran out of time during your opening statement. In 30 or 35 seconds, is there something you would like to add concerning division 32 of part 5 of the bill?

Finance committee  I understand. If I may, I would add that we were nevertheless promised something in 2015 and that it was announced to us in 2019. What we see today are half measures compared to what was advertised. Do you think that an omnibus bill, by which I mean this budget implementation bill, is the right tool to introduce this reform in circumstances that force us to consider it hastily?

Finance committee  You mean a distinct examination.

Finance committee  Thank you.

Finance committee  I understand. Looking back over your remarks, which I found very interesting, you discussed regional representation on these boards. I think that's particularly important because, when you institute appeal proceedings, it's because there's a problem. It's really a contentious case, and you know that benefit criteria can depend on the region and local labour market.

Finance committee  If I may, I'd like to say that we've been waiting since 2015. An announcement was made in 2019. It could be a long time before it changes again.

Finance committee  I understand. I'm picking up the pace here because I only have a few seconds left. You also discussed the part-time or full-time status of people who would be called upon to rule on these judgments. Bill C‑19 allows for a distinction: it would be possible in a way to have two types of judges.

Finance committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thanks to all the witnesses for being here today. I'll begin with Mr. Gilbert, from the Centrale des syndicats démocratiques. I was listening to you, and, unless I'm mistaken, it seems to me the employment insurance program is supported by the money of employers and employees.