Industry committee  The important point I'd like to make is that in the clean-tech sector, there are great growth opportunities in Canada and we need to grow them. In the United States, they have different ways in which they invest in new technology and clean technology. We have to compete with that, and we are punching above our weight.

Industry committee  Absolutely. We always declared conflicts. Those board members would have declared those conflicts, would not have been involved in the decisions, would not have received the material and would have recused themselves at the board when those projects were reviewed. That was how this organization worked.

Industry committee  Yes, that's correct.

Industry committee  This came forward as a package. All the conflicts had been declared on the 126 companies. We as management sought advice and received advice from a reputable legal firm to the effect that, look, by putting them together as a package, you wouldn't have to redeclare that conflict.

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  I don't, not off the top of my head.

Industry committee  I will.

Industry committee  No, zero. I don't have any financial interest in the Verschuren Centre, and I don't have any financial interest in any of the companies that work with the Verschuren Centre.

Industry committee  I don't think so. I can check that for you, but I don't believe so.

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  In the case of the NRStor project, this was a project. The way these things work is that you set up a limited partnership, so this limited partnership—

Industry committee  I did not have a financial interest in Hydrostor.

Industry committee  It certainly was not advancing my personal interest, no.

Industry committee  In the case of the money, the $217,000 that came to NRStor went into a limited partnership. That money was put into the assets of the Goderich energy storage facility.