Public Accounts committee  Honestly, I'm not sure. I don't want to mislead the committee. I would answer as the Auditor General would answer: I don't see any evidence. I have not myself seen such an integrated plan. I won't go so far as to say it doesn't exist, but I've not seen it.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, this business of risk-scoring passengers is a bit more challenging for us than risk-scoring containers. Again, we are leading the pack of two or three countries doing that, but the picture is slightly different there. Four years ago, when we started, we were at 0%. The information for risk scoring is called the personal name record.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chairman, that observation is important and fair. If you look at risk management, the strategic planning for an organization is targeted planning based largely on each area, rather than planning which is completely integrated. This is an important aspect of the Auditor General's report and we are working on it.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chairman, container examination has changed over the past few years. Four years ago, the approach we took was quite individual. The number or proportion of containers that we were able to examine had not changed very much for many years. What did change, however, was the capacity to select those containers that we wanted to examine more closely.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, the member has made quite a few comments--

Public Accounts committee  --and I'll try to capture them rapidly. I have read the Auditor General's report many times. Indeed, I said that I agree with all of the recommendations and will repeat it as often as you want. The question of the percentage of lookouts that would be missed by officers is a question of training.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, I'd be very concerned if one out of five flagged individuals in our system were not referred to secondary. I'm sorry, I really don't think that is the case.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, whenever we have a new minister in any organization in the public service we provide them with options for different initiatives, and that was part of that discussion on options for securing the border.

Public Accounts committee  The cost evaluation for this initiative was developed in that period, yes.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, this question is very important to us. What the Auditor General is referring to is the way our first model for risk assessment was used by our targeters in the organization. It is a fact that we need some additional training of our targeters to optimize the use of those systems, but this is the first model.

Public Accounts committee  The initiative provides for arming 4,800 officers of our organization.

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, I believe the cost for the first part of the exercise, and we are still in that first part, is $101 million. The cost over the 10-year period for arming, training, and equipping our officers, and replacing those who will need to be replaced in that period of 10 years, is, I believe, $780 million.

Public Accounts committee  Bonjour. Thank you. Chair, members, and representatives of the Auditor General, thank you for the opportunity to provide the CBSA's perspective on the Auditor General's report. I'd like to introduce my colleagues: Stephen Rigby, executive vice-president; and Ms. Cathy Munroe, the director general of the operations branch.

Public Safety committee  There could be; this is something we have to worry about. Of course, as I said earlier, this is certainly one point that will be discussed at the table when collective bargaining starts this coming spring. But by and large, if you have more similar conditions, and differences in benefits or salary, there could be some pressure.

Public Safety committee  That may be the word they used. It's certainly not the one I would use, although I was not there.