Transport committee  As far as the information itself is concerned, if they report it to the SMS, this bill is trying to provide some protections for that document. If they take it the next step now and give it to us as an incident report, it's now in our hands and is ATIP-able.

Transport committee  It comes into the public domain through ATIP just like that.

Transport committee  I responded to a specific question about an audit, Mr. Bélanger. I asked Mr. Julian to provide me the date of the audit to which he's referring. My understanding is that if it wasn't disclosed it certainly should be, and it certainly should be brought to this committee. I'm not aware of a gap here somewhere.

Transport committee  You could also add a fourth level where you're dealing with products that would be sold overseas. Anything we would do that would reduce the standard as seen by other nations wouldn't happen. We couldn't allow it to happen. It would have a terrible impact on our economy, which is in the order of $22 billion to $23 billion in this area.

Transport committee  There's another way to look at that, Mr. Julian. The concept you find in this amendment is not found elsewhere. It shouldn't create a conflict between what was there before and this one, because it's addressing the individual employee in this context.

Transport committee  It will be provided; it has to.

Transport committee  Well, if you tell me which one and what date. They've had audits ever since they've been in existence.

Transport committee  Air Transat audit? We don't publish them, but they're available through ATI.

Transport committee  Yes, that's standard practice.

Transport committee  For which--

Transport committee  For which audit, sir?

Transport committee  The safety audit on their audit manual?

Transport committee  Are you talking about the last audit?

Transport committee  Okay, then give me the date and which one and we'll get that to you. That's absolutely--

Transport committee  I think maybe the way to clarify that is to ask what is the source of the information that we're speaking about, and it is from the employees. The process is for employees to report. The source is the employees. It's not a formalized audit. Anything that's generated by Transport Canada by way of an activity is totally transparent.