Public Accounts committee  It's a decision the government will have to make.

Public Accounts committee  The government must make this decision. This would probably involve discussions with central agencies. As public servants, we must ensure that the necessary verifications have been carried out and that due diligence has been exercised with regard to the information intended for release.

Public Accounts committee  First, as a grandfather, I have the same questions. I'm asking the same questions on how I would approach those issues. Let's come back to a few things. I didn't say that the targets have changed. Our commitment in the targets for 2030 is still the same. Second, on the—

Public Accounts committee  It was around $2.7 billion. That may vary. There were changes.

Public Accounts committee  No, I don't.

Public Accounts committee  It isn't my place to judge.

Public Accounts committee  It depends on what you call a fossil fuel subsidy. For example, does this include investment in decarbonization?

Public Accounts committee  We have regulations for methane emissions. We're also working on a regulatory framework to cap greenhouse gas emissions from the oil and gas sector. These measures target the fossil fuel sector. When we work on reducing greenhouse gases, we need to work with the entire industry, because we need to go—

Public Accounts committee  Modelling is constantly under review. As I said earlier, every two years we submit a report to the United Nations. This report is verified by our peers. After the audit in particular, we set up a forum of modelling experts from outside the department and we compare data and practices with them.

Public Accounts committee  We'll keep working hard so that the commissioner, at some point, will consider our efforts adequate. He said that efforts had been made, but that it wasn't enough. We'll continue to work to meet the highest standards. I hope that, sooner or later, the commissioner will agree with us.

Public Accounts committee  There's not an issue with modelling. Modelling is something that is always in progress. When we do modelling, it's something that, as the commissioner asked of us, we work on to make sure that it's actually as good and accurate as possible. We have sent five biannual reports to the United Nations using our modelling.

Public Accounts committee  This is something that was raised by the commissioner and by some countries: how fast they are able to actually provide information on the emissions for recent years. We are working on this. We said that we will be doing some work with Statistics Canada. The team is working on this.

Public Accounts committee  The documents that were shared with the auditor are documents that they shared. I didn't see those documents. I'm not the one who participated in the collection of the comments.

Public Accounts committee  I don't. I came here for an audit on something different, and you're raising an issue about the net-zero accelerator, which I think should be answered by my colleagues.

Public Accounts committee  I'm telling you that it is more appropriate for the Department of ISED to answer your questions about how they manage their programs, the objectives of their programs and the results they expect. They are accountable for this.